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	<title>Comments on: What about Dad?</title>
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	<description>Bringing foreign policy back, girl.  Those other countries don't know how to act.</description>
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		<title>By: Seth R.</title>
		<link>http://www.undiplomatic.net/2009/05/06/what-about-dad/#comment-26888</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 07:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Few points here:

1. A temple baptism does not make a person "a Mormon."

All it does is OFFER the option to the deceased. If they choose to accept it or reject it, that is there business. But we do not assume that they are Mormons once the baptism has been done and we do not report them on our membership rolls or numbers.

2. The agreement with the Jewish Holocaust survivors group was that the LDS Church would try to halt all baptisms done for Jewish holocaust victims EXCEPT when done by a direct descendant of those victims. Mormons who are descended from the victims are good to go - and that was the nature of the agreement from day one. There was never any agreement to halt all such baptisms.

3. The LDS Church has a general policy that its members should only submit names they are actually related to. I am not supposed to go out there and submit Elvis's information and run some temple ordinances for him because I'm not a descendant. This is general Church policy and they've tried to enforce it at every opportunity.

4. The LDS temple database is kind of an open-source model. Anyone can submit information freely. Thousands of names are submitted on a daily basis. It is impossible for the LDS Church to police all names submitted to the database. Usually, the best they can do is correct things after the fact when a incident is reported.

5. Final point is a repeat - there is no force or coercion involved in the LDS baptismal process. The deceased has a free choice.

On a sidenote, just in case anybody asks - no, I don't care if you "baptize" me, my wife, and my kids as atheists. It makes no difference to me if you do that, because I DON'T BELIEVE IN IT.

Honestly, I don't see why it ought to matter to anyone else either. I mean, it's not like you believe these baptisms do anything in the first place, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Few points here:</p>
<p>1. A temple baptism does not make a person &#8220;a Mormon.&#8221;</p>
<p>All it does is OFFER the option to the deceased. If they choose to accept it or reject it, that is there business. But we do not assume that they are Mormons once the baptism has been done and we do not report them on our membership rolls or numbers.</p>
<p>2. The agreement with the Jewish Holocaust survivors group was that the LDS Church would try to halt all baptisms done for Jewish holocaust victims EXCEPT when done by a direct descendant of those victims. Mormons who are descended from the victims are good to go - and that was the nature of the agreement from day one. There was never any agreement to halt all such baptisms.</p>
<p>3. The LDS Church has a general policy that its members should only submit names they are actually related to. I am not supposed to go out there and submit Elvis&#8217;s information and run some temple ordinances for him because I&#8217;m not a descendant. This is general Church policy and they&#8217;ve tried to enforce it at every opportunity.</p>
<p>4. The LDS temple database is kind of an open-source model. Anyone can submit information freely. Thousands of names are submitted on a daily basis. It is impossible for the LDS Church to police all names submitted to the database. Usually, the best they can do is correct things after the fact when a incident is reported.</p>
<p>5. Final point is a repeat - there is no force or coercion involved in the LDS baptismal process. The deceased has a free choice.</p>
<p>On a sidenote, just in case anybody asks - no, I don&#8217;t care if you &#8220;baptize&#8221; me, my wife, and my kids as atheists. It makes no difference to me if you do that, because I DON&#8217;T BELIEVE IN IT.</p>
<p>Honestly, I don&#8217;t see why it ought to matter to anyone else either. I mean, it&#8217;s not like you believe these baptisms do anything in the first place, right?</p>
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